Long story short, The first time i started it up, it ran at 2600 rpms at idle, which i found out later that the arc2 wasnt hooked up to the right power source. Once i got that the right ammount of power, the idle was around 2000rpms, and then i adjusted my TPS from 14% to 9%. Ever since i did that, my car has not run. Its currently at 13%. I asked my step dad to help me with a few things. The fuel pressure is set at 41-42 while cranking. We also took out the front 3 plugs, which were wet. So after that we checked to see if it was getting spark, the first one we tryed didnt have any spark, but the second one had very small spark. That was after we lit each one up to help get rid of the excess fuel. When it was running before, it was smooth but just high. As far as putting back in the stock mas and stock injectors, i kind of sold them a while ago. I did buy some black top 450cc DSM injectors and theyll be at my house on wednesday from getting flow tested and cleaned. Im sure ill get the 450's since those could be get rid of some other problems later on.

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1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up

1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07

Greg - is it possible he fouled his spark plugs from running too rich and having excess fuel in the cylinders?

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That's what I was going to say. get some new copper spark plugs and turn her over again. especially if there soakin wet and black.

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If they are fouled out yes get new plugs. If they are just wet, dry them off and check the spark again. If it is ok then disconnect the fuel power and turn it over to clear the cylinders and reinstall the plugs and wait for the 450's.
Also as soon as you get it running change the oil !!!!
The oil has to be pretty thinned out by now.

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Definately. Everything else I have to say has already been said.

Brandon, pull the dipstick out, step away from the engine bay, and sniff it. If it has a very strong odor of gas, change the oil right away. Don't take any chances.

If you'd like, I'll take try and make some time to come help you out when you get the injectors. We'll get her going.

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Heck, I'd change my oil anyways Brandon, knowing you probably flooded it. You don't want gas mixing with oil. Buy yourself peace of mind, change it.

Ver Fer - check your PMs you dork

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I did that at it sure smells like gas to me. When i did pull the front 3 plugs, they all were black and when i put a lighter to them, they were staying lit for atleast 5 seconds each. So i guess ill order some new plugs and get them in along with the 450cc black top injectors. Hopefully thatll solve the rest of my problems. Thanks again for all the help.

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1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up

1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07

So currently, i have my 450cc injectors in, so now im waiting on the new plugs to come in. After i get that all in and all the other good stuff, is there any suggestions on what i should do. Like for instance, just start it up with the new plugs in, or should i disconnect the fuel pump first to ensure that all the excess fuel gets burn out first, or something around those lines. After reading a little more on the arc2, these are the settings i believe i should start with, but ill tune as i go: Low +2 Mid -6 High +3 Accel +2. As when im tuning, would it be best if i tryed to keep my fuel trims just below 100 on each of the low mid and high, or try and have them at other levels. Just getting some extra info now so i wont be searching forever tumaro. Thanks in advance.

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1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up

1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07

The only thing the trims are good for (it seems) is they let you know when you've gone too far in either direction. I've tried for months to get my trims close to 100, but the ARC has too general of a tune to get that picky. If they're not maxed, you're fine. It's nice to give the ECU a little room to play with for different weather conditions.

I've tuned 3 cars with the ARC and can say that leaving the mid at a -6 had the same effect on all the cars. One click either way with the low or accell with max your O2s full rich or full lean. Start with -7. If you still have the problem with finding an "inbetween", go to -8.

Odd as this sounds, running lean at idel is fine, so start with a lean low and accell (too lean and the car will choke) when you first start the car. The ECU will richen the mixture during warm up so it's best to be ready for that with a lean tune. Once the car is warm, adjust the low to get your 02's to cycle. Go for a drive around the block toying with the low and mid. The goal is to get the crusing O2's to cycle (go back and forth between rich and lean). This is where the ARM1 is nice.

Once you get that setup (and the motor is completly warm, 180 degrees), pull over and play with the accell to get your idel O2's to cycle. You shouldn't have to touch the low knob.

For the high, you need to get on it. Tune the high in 3rd gear only and monitor EGT's, knock, and take it all the way to the red line (need a long stretch of road for this). 900C is a good target for EGT's and, obviously, no knock is good. If you get a few spikes that's okay. As long as it stays under 7, you're good.

Stock O2's aren't trust worthy, but they're still good to look at. .92-.94 on the logger is a good target but don't worry if they're not in that range. As long as you have no knock and EGT's stay under control, you should be good.

If you have boost leaks, get ready for major tuning headaches.

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When ever we fouled plugs at my house and it was to late to go to an autoparts store (or nobody is sober enough to drive) we would first blow the plugs out with compressed air, and then hit them with a torch. And leave it on there for a bit to burn the crap off. It would ussually burn enough off them to get the egine running for a bit, until we could get new plugs. Just telling this if you can't find new plugs, don't get them in time, or are in a hurry to test this stuff. I wouldn't reccomend going on long trips with half-assed fouled plugs...

Good luck man!

and change your oil. don't spin a bearing.

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Good info about fuel trims:

http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread.php?p=2908423

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ok so i got it all together, and everything else. So i got to start it up, it stumbles then starts, but revs to 3000 rpm then dies. i tryed to adjust a few thing on the arc2, nothing. So now im gettin pretty pissed of why it doesnt wanna run.

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1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up

1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07

Plug the MAF in.

its in :\

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1994 Stealth R/T TT Pearl Yellow
-Out since June 05'
-Almost ready for start up

1991 Stealth R/T Red
-Out for 7 weeks with a spun bearing
-Came back to life on 8/04/07
-Blew the motor again on 11/25/07

If your settings are still a +2 for both the accell and low, I'm not too surpised it won't run. Try a -3 for the low and a +2 for the accell with a -7 for the mid.

After that, make sure everything is plugged in, every clamp is tightened, and there are no vac leaks. Then ground the fuel pump using the black connector by the battery to make sure there are no fuel leaks. Then move on to double checking every wire connection.

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