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ttangel
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 10:41 am |
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Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:25 pm Posts: 2502 Location: Green Bay
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Over the tenure of owning my car, I've gotten pretty decent at getting parts from the local mitsu dealer. and other sources that don't require a second mortgage on the house to afford.
I've found that Martin's hardware carries a large assortment of metric nuts, bolts, and even turbo studs. other places that carry copper crush washers, (which I'm proud to say I'll never have to f*ck with another copper crush washer on my turbo ever again.) and -AN fittings because I'll be damned to hell before I pay over 500 bucks for a "fuel pump assembly."
But there are still a few things that you get from mitsu, either because they are the only ones that have it, or because the after market just isn't as good as OEM.
take throttle body to plenum and plenum to lower intake manifold gaskets.
So I am forced to deal with the 8 dollar an hour parts jockey at the local mitsu station.
Which, I have to say, I finally had the last guy broken in. I would stop in, he had the "generic" vin number for 3000gt vr-4 pinned on the wall, and would then turn the computer to face me, and let me point out exactly what I needed.
Hell, the car techs there would occasionally ask me questions about 3000s they had in the shop.
well, they got a new parts jockey. all I can say is "MOTHERF*CKING WHORE B*TCH C*CK-SUCKING THREE-BALLED SON OF A B*TCH MOTHERF*CKER."
A new Toby to train in the ways of not screwing up completely.
Call in:
him - "hello, this is *c*ck-sucker* how may I help you?" (name changed to protect the guy with the drool cup and helmet.)
me - "need parts for a 95 3000 gt vr-4."
him - "can you give me the VIN number?"
me - " nope. I don't have one."
him - "Sir, it's on your car."
me - "nope, it's a dodge stealth, but dodge doesn't admit that there is a part such as the one I'm looking for, and if they do, they will just order it from you guys, put a mark up on it, and take an extra day to get it to me."
him - "ah... oh... I'm not sure if we can help you."
me - "Yes you can, enter the generic 3000 GT vr-4 look up number."
him - "oh... I... ah... don't know that... and my sheet is gone... hold please."
- enter crappiest 80's girl band music EVER MADE -
five minutes goes by, he finally comes back, and I tell him I need a <plenum to throttle body gasket> and a <plenum to lower intake manifold gasket>, and it all goes well, until he trys to tell me there is two gaskets to a pack of plenum to intake maniflod gaskets, and he can't break up a pair for me.
me - "no, you did that wrong. It's not a pack of two I only need one. plenum to intake manifold."
him - "No, you need two. the computer calls for two gaskets."
me - "Well, then your computer is wrong. I only need one. your probably looking at intake manifold to heads, which requires two, I need plenum to intake manifold."
him - "nope, I'm looking at... oh wait... um... please hold."
- More of the SH*TTIEST HITS OF THE 80s sound track -
after a few minutes:
him - "ok, sir, I've got one plenum gasket, and one throttle body gasket."
me - "plenum to intake and plenum to throttle body gasket?"
him - "yeah, sure. that'll be 15 dollars and XX cents for the plenum gasket and 5 dollars and XX cents for the throttle body gasket."
me - "ok, sounds fine"
him - "I don't have these in stock."
me - "you guys never have them in stock."
him - "There will be a 20% restocking fee if they are the wrong part."
*author's note: up until this point, I thought him being an idiot was kinda cute... a little fledgling nooblet, learning how to not f*ck up, but now he's threatening me with a financial burden because he can't order parts. no f*cking way.*
me - "I've ordered these exact parts from you guys at least a dozen times in the past two years, if you screw it up, I will laugh at you as I talk to your boss."
him - "..."
me - "So when can I expect these."
him - "um, I'll order them tomorrow, and it takes a week to get them, so... about... "
me - "um nope, that's not going to work, you guys get deliveries twice a week. And I'm going to make this even easier on you, I want them by friday, so do whatever you have to."
him - "I can overnight them."
me - "now your thinking. do it."
him - "It will cost extra."
me - "yup. always does. about 7 bucks more."
him - "about 7 dollars more... oh... ok... I'll get them on order..."
that was yesterday, so they should have gotten there today. I'm stopping by to get them on my way home.
If he screws up these gaskets, and then tries to charge me, you guys will probably hear about it on the news.
bring bail money, thanks.
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ver fer
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 11:26 am |
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Joined: Sun Aug 17, 2003 2:04 pm Posts: 767 Location: Oshkosh
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Save yourself the hassle and give them the part numbers or just order them online since they have to be shipped anyway.
_________________ '94 vr4- Now with extra slowness
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SJ
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 12:25 pm |
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Joined: Sun Mar 06, 2005 9:48 pm Posts: 2973
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ver fer wrote: Save yourself the hassle and give them the part numbers or just order them online since they have to be shipped anyway. That'd be real easy if you had a CAPS program. SJ
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ver fer
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 1:52 pm |
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Joined: Sun Aug 17, 2003 2:04 pm Posts: 767 Location: Oshkosh
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sigh... I fix your car, kind of, and now you want a copy of CAPS. I will try to remember it Friday.
_________________ '94 vr4- Now with extra slowness
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Bunk
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 2:44 pm |
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Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2005 4:02 pm Posts: 316 Location: Kingsford, Mi/ WI border town
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When I stopped at our local Dodge dealership to get a throttle body gasket this spring I gave her the exact number and the parts girl looked it up and then tells me they don't make that part anymore and there is only one left in the country!!!! I just shook my head laughing as I walked out.
Bunk
P.S. I can't wait to hear how the next part of this story goes. It might sound mean but I kind of hope the kid ordered the wrong part just to "Hear the Rest of the Story" as Paul Harvey would say.
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SJ
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:09 pm |
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ver fer wrote: sigh... I fix your car, kind of, and now you want a copy of CAPS. I will try to remember it Friday. FIX?! Now hold there fella! You know how I am... But I am too like Adam -- EVEN WITH THE CORRECT PARTS NUMBER FOR BLOODY SAKE! Thanks, SJ
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SJ
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:10 pm |
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Bunk wrote: P.S. I can't wait to hear how the next part of this story goes. It might sound mean but I kind of hope the kid ordered the wrong part just to "Hear the Rest of the Story" as Paul Harvey would say. They'll be a rest of the story anyways -- this is Adam we're talking about here for crying out loud! SJ
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ttangel
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:19 pm |
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Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:25 pm Posts: 2502 Location: Green Bay
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ver fer wrote: sigh... I fix your car, kind of, and now you want a copy of CAPS. I will try to remember it Friday. Well, then the next time he shows up at Elkhart, and I have to walk away before the vein blows in my forehead, I'm coming at you with the hatchet. SJ wrote: They'll be a rest of the story anyways -- this is Adam we're talking about here for crying out loud! you love it and you know it. And don't worry, I'll look over ver fer's stuff at the gathering. 
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SJ
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 3:26 pm |
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ttangel wrote: ver fer wrote: sigh... I fix your car, kind of, and now you want a copy of CAPS. I will try to remember it Friday. Well, then the next time he shows up at Elkhart, and I have to walk away before the vein blows in my forehead, I'm coming at you with the hatchet. You mean of course, the beer hammer. SJ wrote: They'll be a rest of the story anyways -- this is Adam we're talking about here for crying out loud! ttangel wrote: you love it and you know it. And don't worry, I'll look over ver fer's stuff at the gathering. I'm not touching that one, Ver Fer does good work in my book! Now put the hatchet down and reach for the spotted cow... SJ
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Posted: Thu Sep 13, 2007 9:38 pm |
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Joined: Wed Aug 13, 2003 1:18 am Posts: 3153 Location: Lehigh Valley, PA
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ttangel wrote: well, they got a new parts jockey. all I can say is "MOTHERF*CKING WHORE B*TCH C*CK-SUCKING THREE-BALLED SON OF A B*TCH MOTHERF*CKER." Oh that's nothing: This was a few weeks ago. http://www.bawcforums.org/vbb/showthrea ... #post60901G-ELL wrote: You know, I honestly believe to work at any generic autoparts store, they don't require people to know anything about cars. It's true. Some of the tales I tell about sales people really make you wonder....
In this case, I had Mike94TT come over this weekend to do a few things to his car. It was upper 90s, high humidity, sweat-your-nuts-off-till-you're-dehydrated-and-get-a-headache kinda day. Working outside with no electricity, lights, or fans and the 17 year old mexican women gawking at us like immature infantiles, we decided to take on a few projects. One being the jaunting task of replacing a fuel filer on a 3/S. Honestly, the job takes about 20 min start to finish assuming you can get the feed line appart without stripping the fitting or busting your metacarpus.
Something I'll never understand is why when you buy a fuel filter, it doesn't come with new copper crush washers. In my bewilderment, nearly every autoparts store sales clerk I come accross has never even heard of a washer that acts as a gasket. It's some kind of foreign designed object I guess. Usually I carry a stock of these, but my supply for the fuel lines is depleted at this point.
So we set out to the local Pepboys. There's a freckly redhead who normally works behind the counter (she's really the only reason I go there), but she was off that day. Instead, we're greeted by some younger dude on his first week on the job.
Knowing full well the I-bolts on the fuel filter assembly are custom only to mitsubishis, I brought one of the I-bolts old crush washers just to use as a reference.
The guy points us an isle down and we travel to it only to find there are only regular spacer washers. The trip back to the counter was endowed and I explained what exactly a crush washer is. The guy starts keying things into his thinking machine and comes up short. Then he goes to one of the older gentlemen who was in conference on the phone and assisting another customer.
Well, a few moments later, the kid was finally able to arouse his attention and I once again had to explain what exactly the fuck a copper crush washer was. He aggravatingly put the phone on hold, asked the kid to continue aiding the woman needing brake pads for her Cutlass. We walked 2 isles down to find 1 single box of 10 assorted copper crush washers in some generic size. 2 washers inside the floral container appeared to be close to the size we needed but we needed 4. Being unable to open the box and find out if any were the correct size, we bought it anyway and ventured towards the other Pepboys in the area for another box. Unfortunately, we didn't arrive in time and the doors were locked not minutes before our arrival.
So, we decided to call it a night and grab a bite to munch at the local mexican fast food chain eat place and on the way home, the heavens parted and we encountered a beam of hope in the sunset sky shining on an Autozone. Looking at the clock, it was 5 to 9 giving us just enough time to run in, grab what we need, and leave. Oh no, it's never that simple.
Run inside, ask the pimpled face snot licking virgin for copper crush washers and are commanded to check isle 5. Like I figured, no crush washers, only regular ones. Walk blissfully back to the counter again, ask the other adolescent nigrescent genepool failure where we can find crush washers, and he hands me some generic washer with 9/16ths stamped on it. *sigh* ...and again I explain to the inarticulately incoherent dim-witted monkey trash what exactly the fuck a crush washer is and it's purpose, even give him details on how it does what it does and why it can't be reused, and yet it was still too perplexing to him. "Yeah, we don't carry those."
So, rather than quarrel with the poor teen even more, I ask if they happen to carry any fuel filters (thinking maybe it would come with them). Guy asks for what make car and I say, "Dodge Stealth. Doesn't matter what year or make, they all use the same filter."
Monkey puss: "What year?" me: "94, but it doesn't matter." Monkey puss: "Fuel filter right?" me: "Yessir."
*types things on the computer. Turns the monitor towards me* "Is this it?"
I glance at the conglomeration of part numbers and multi-colored menu selections and just say "sure," and the kid proceeds to the rear of the store to fetch it.
Mean while store clerk #2 AKA the virgin snot licker is locking the door, glances out at my VR4, and it somehow brings out all the joy his life does not have.
virgin snot licker: "Hey is that your VR4 out there!!!" me: "Yeah, i just got it not long ago." snot licker: "OMG! Those cars are SO AWESOME! I've always wanted one." me: "Yeah, they're great cars, I've owned one my whole life..." snotty puss interrupts: "I can't wait to get one. I'm going to domesticate the SHIT out of it. Ditch the stock motor, throw in a 400... Fucken chrome valve covers are going to be sticking out of the hood and no one will fuck with me. (by the way, i'm not over exaggerating this. These were almost his EXACT words) Guys are gonna come over to my place, see the jeep, and challenge to race and I'm gonna me like, let's go fucker. *inserts some retarded attempt at a buzzer noise which i guess was supposed to symbolize a garage door opener* "See that. Oh yeah, I'm gonna decimate you with that." me: "that's great" :rolleyes: special ed: "People will be so surprised. They won't know what was comming to them" me: "I'm sure they will." (give thumbs up)
Schwartzemenugan finally comes back from behind the store with the fuel filter and sure enough, there's 6 crush washers in with it, but 5 of them are bent to shit somehow. He prances back again and comes back with a packet of 2 washers the exact same size. Guess he pulled them out of his ass or something... I don't know nor do I care.
For some reason, I couldn't just purchase the package of crush washers, we needed to buy the whole fuel filter. After the adventure to find the damn things combined with the obtuse 3KGT from upper Delware speech, we just got fed up, bought it, and hit the road.
...and now Mike's car is now happily ever after boosting with no throttle delay...
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ttangel
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 8:33 am |
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Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:25 pm Posts: 2502 Location: Green Bay
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sorry for the delay in the story. Lisa, Belle, and I all got sick over the weekend. Lie around the house in PJs watching crappy movies on USA sick. Although I have to admit, there is a show called "burn notice" on usa. has serious potential. but I digress.
I walked into the mitsu store, and to my suprise, the new guy is either A) the most femanine guy I have ever seen, or B) the ugliest chick I have ever seen.
Either way, I was already getting sick on Thursday and in no mood to deal with some parts Toby.
I walked in, told "Pat" what I was there for, and he proceded to be an idiot, until the other guy who I always ordered from before saw me, said "hey man, I saw your order. I'll go grab it." and he came back with my gaskets. He told me newbie asked about the order after the phone call, and he just used my order history to order the gaskets.
Oh thank you sweet baby Jesus.
However, being to dizzy to stand for long periods of time, I couldn't put the car together. which is a shame, because I'm almost done. Of course my laptop is fairly shitted out, and it was the one I was going to use for the AEM control because it has a serial port. So I can't even open the freaking PDF files so I can see where to connect the temp and pressure sensor in, or how to even download the map into the AEM. LAME. I hate computers. I may through a 400 with big chrome valve covers and a carb in my car also.
Also, Greg, do you remember at my house when we did the t-belt/turbo swap? I bought all the crush washers from mitsu, that way we wouldn't have that issue...
then we lost a couple because, well, the coolant and oil lines on those turbos just suck to put on.
So we sent my father out to get more, he came back with about 500 of different sizes, none fit, and he spent about 45 minutes with a dremel coring out the insides of a half a dozen of them...
good lord did that suck monkey nuts.
But I don't have to deal with that anymore... and I'll prolly go for a different fuel filter next time, just because then I will be copper crushwasher free.
uber.
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ver fer
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:20 am |
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Does that mean I'm going to have to come up Fri. to get that thing on the road too.
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ttangel
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:44 am |
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Joined: Fri Jul 23, 2004 2:25 pm Posts: 2502 Location: Green Bay
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ver fer wrote: Does that mean I'm going to have to come up Fri. to get that thing on the road too. Do you have a laptop with a serial port?
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ver fer
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:51 am |
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ttangel
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Posted: Mon Sep 17, 2007 11:02 am |
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ver fer wrote: x2 You're enlisted. congrats. I need to know where to wire the pressure and temp sensors to. if you can find that out, all you'll have to do is show up, and down load the map. I'll probably ask on the AEM forums, just for good measure.
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