2004 STI VS VR4 stock vs stock Im asking this because im looking into buying a STI Rally blue Gold BBS wheels wing etc with 31,000 miles for 24K stock with the extended warranty. I looked at the staged mods 5,000 gets you 350-400 AWHP I seen them running 11.9-12.3 times are these things really fast stock and do they blow up easily. I road in one of my buddies but he didnt launch it and i was kind of dissapointed. And when i watched the 11s and low 12s passes they were shifting into 5th gear already whats the top speed I want a 170mph car my 3S went 120 end of 3rd and 146 end of 4th and middle of 5th was 157 were I let off it (girlfriends was freakin out lol) Im leaving for Florida on a couple internship for UW responses please

For $5000, I can build you a low 12 second 3/S.

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06 Blue EVO 9

12 sec vr4:

13T's - $1K
550cc inj - $300
safc 2 - $200
walbro fp - $100
air filter ass. - $100
DP - $200
lines, gaskets, etc - $200

Total = $2100 and it could be done cheaper.

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you forgot:
Catback
test pipe
clutch

umm....
plugs & wires
crank pulley
cfds

...still <$5,000 if you do your own labor.

And you'll be in the 11's.

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~Joe - aka spider gear destroyer
'94 Stealth R/T
-Lightly Modded ;)

All great feedback keep it coming. I think for around 5,000 it was a GT35R turbo at 18 psi for the STI, bov, intake , pump, injectors, downpipe, catback and the UTEC tuning with the upgrade top mount. The tuning for these cars is plug and play pretuned but more tweaking still needs to be had. This turbo was rated to 600 plus wheels HP. Also im still looking for a 95 VR4 or 99 thats reasonably priced with under 80,000 that is black, yellow, blue, or sandstone grey

You're NOT going to get 600AWHP out of a VR4 for $5K.

E16G's -------------------------------- $950
IPS TD05 Headers ------------------- $1950

The turbos and headers alone are going to run ya $3K to get near that power.

A low 12 sec VR4 and one with 600AWHP are not even in the same ballpark.

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Here is a little insight into my project: The Real Project Low Buck

1992 Vr4 Purchase price $3500

Phase 1 includes:
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New Mitsu Shortblock $2700
Engine Gasket Kit $300
New Oil Cooler. $300

+ All the 120K Maint Parts we were going to do last Fall. $700
(Tensionizer, Timing Belt, Sparkplugs, oil pump, water pump etc...)

Rebuilt Heads with 99 Lifters $950
Solid Motor Mounts $275
RobBeck converted 19T Turbos in 13T housings $775 for the turbos, $690 for my service
ATR Downpipe $230
Gutted Main Cat (looks legal) $30
Gutted Pre Cats (-2 years of my life)
Palm m500 and Logger Cable + MMCD software $130

Converted DSM Sidemount Intercoolers $500
Stronger Clutch - not sure what I'm going with for this yet $500

Phase 1 ~$8080 + misc other expenses


Phase 2 will probably look something like this:
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650 cc injectors $400
Walbro 255LPH fuel pump $100
Emanage Ultimate (unless Greg convinces me that 550cc inj will be enough fuel) $800

Manual Boost Controller - or EBC if i have the cash $50

Wideband 02 Gauge $200
EGT Gauge $100 ?
Real Oil Pressure Gauge $50

Phase 2- ~$1600-2000


If I could put down 430 AWHP on 93 Octane with this setup I would be more than pleased.

Total ~$13500
Jason

cars are much like women.

They should be traded in every three years on a younger, better model.

not sent into the doctor for boob and face lifts, because your still left with a chasis that has been used, abused, rode hard and put away wet.

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Bad decisions make good stories.
Look at it! LOOK AT MY @SS AND TELL ME IT'S PRETTY!

That reminds me of an old guy that came in our Ford dealership (mid 80's)to trade in his old truck for a new one. When asked what his truck was like he said, it's like my wife, older, high miles, doesn't look the best but the box is in great shape!!!

Kyle

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93 3000 GT VR4

Adam...

How old is your stealth?
Well I guess I'm defying that Philosophy in two ways...
1. I'm getting married.
2. I'm spending money on a car that is 14 years old.

Personally I'm going for the elusive collector plates

Jason

my stealth is 11 years old.

I am nearly finished with the single turbo conversion.

I never said I was an intelligent man, but I can still warn others.

So far I'm still resisting the tampoons in my car's glove box, and a minivan/suv.

but if I could go back in time, I'd give myself the winning lotto ticket numbers for one of the spikes in the megabucks drawings, have a shiny new modded viper which gets upgraded every three years, and have an 18-21 year old girlfriend all the time.

balloons are like virgins. one prick, all gone.

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Bad decisions make good stories.
Look at it! LOOK AT MY @SS AND TELL ME IT'S PRETTY!

Collector plates are an interesting thought, but I don't you can get them personalized, can you? Also, don't you have to go through one final emissions test, no matter where you live, before you can get them, or was I again, misinformed?

Thanks,

SJ

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Racing is life. Everything else is just waiting.

http://umg.mn3s.org

http://ummo.boards.net

we didn't emissions test the jeep...?

1967 willies CJ5. 97 horsepower 132 ft-lbs of torque. GGGRRRRRRRR.

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Bad decisions make good stories.
Look at it! LOOK AT MY @SS AND TELL ME IT'S PRETTY!

Almost every member of 3SI is defying the upgrade every X years plan. I am a firm believer in the plan itself, and know all too well that anything with T1T5 or wheels can only cause problems. We are a special breed, seeing the possibilities in a 10 year old platform thats heavy, and has a seriously weak stock setup compared to other cars of its class. (I should talk, I'm the W3SI member most likely to be overheard talking of selling his car to buy a Z06)

Marriage and tampoons in the 3S golvebox? Now thats just crazy talk.

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