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ttangel
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 Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 11:54 am |
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I still say something with the PCV valve/krank vent problem...
while you have the turbos open grab the shaft and wiggle. do they wiggle alot? cause that's bad. a very little bit of wiggle is ok.
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ccrunner84
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:35 pm |
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ttangel wrote: I still say something with the PCV valve/krank vent problem...
while you have the turbos open grab the shaft and wiggle. do they wiggle alot? cause that's bad. a very little bit of wiggle is ok. I'll check for shaft play tonight. I don't believe its the PCV system, its 2 hoses with a check valve that go to the intake manifold and pipe. It doesn't seem to be blowing oil through the rear cover hose either, I threw in a clear hose and beat the hell out of the car and there's nothing as far as oil. 
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 1:10 pm |
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ccrunner84 wrote: I don't believe its the PCV system, its 2 hoses with a check valve that go to the intake manifold and pipe. It doesn't seem to be blowing oil through the rear cover hose either, I threw in a clear hose and beat the hell out of the car and there's nothing as far as oil. Can you get us a picture of all that? SJ _________________  Racing is life. Everything else is just waiting. http://umg.mn3s.orghttp://ummo.boards.net
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ccrunner84
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:36 pm |
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SJ wrote: ccrunner84 wrote: I don't believe its the PCV system, its 2 hoses with a check valve that go to the intake manifold and pipe. It doesn't seem to be blowing oil through the rear cover hose either, I threw in a clear hose and beat the hell out of the car and there's nothing as far as oil. Can you get us a picture of all that? SJ The PCV stuff? Sure, I'll snap one tonight.
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ccrunner84
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:03 pm |
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G-ELL
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:49 pm |
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ttangel wrote: so let me get this straight, your running oth the krank vent and the PCV valve...? stop that. one is a replacement for the other, not an "ok, we'll run both" thing. Uh that's how you're supposed to set it up. If you eliminate the PCV valve your idle will increase from the larger krank vent orifice allowing more air into the intake (if you don't have the rear vent hooked up that is). Besides, what's wrong with 2x the protection.  Crunner, if you hook up the rear krank vent, the smoke will probably go away. If not your heads were not rebuilt correctly. There's a failed seal in there somewhere. Probably a valve stem seal which was not installed properly. _________________ 06 Blue EVO 9
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ccrunner84
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Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:46 pm |
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G-ELL wrote: ttangel wrote: so let me get this straight, your running oth the krank vent and the PCV valve...? stop that. one is a replacement for the other, not an "ok, we'll run both" thing. Uh that's how you're supposed to set it up. If you eliminate the PCV valve your idle will increase from the larger krank vent orifice allowing more air into the intake (if you don't have the rear vent hooked up that is). Besides, what's wrong with 2x the protection. Crunner, if you hook up the rear krank vent, the smoke will probably go away. If not your heads were not rebuilt correctly. There's a failed seal in there somewhere. Probably a valve stem seal which was not installed properly. Thats what im starting to think, but wouldn't I see some sign of burnt oil on the plugs? I'll pull them this weekend and get some good pictures of them.. Going by this picture, last time I pulled them out, I had black on the bottom of the 'reach'. The 'center electrode' is a white / off-white. The actual 'ground electrode' is a very light brown. 
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Posted: Fri Jun 22, 2007 7:00 pm |
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ccrunner84 wrote: Thats what im starting to think, but wouldn't I see some sign of burnt oil on the plugs? I'll pull them this weekend and get some good pictures of them.. Over time, yes probably.
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ttangel
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:28 am |
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ccrunner84 wrote: Going by this picture, last time I pulled them out, I had black on the bottom of the 'reach'. The 'center electrode' is a white / off-white. The actual 'ground electrode' is a very light brown. You want to see a brown or carmel color on your plugs. that's normal and means the A/F raito is about right. unless your using any types of fuel additives, and then the colors can come out ALL whacky.
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ttangel
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 10:30 am |
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G-ELL wrote: ttangel wrote: so let me get this straight, your running oth the krank vent and the PCV valve...? stop that. one is a replacement for the other, not an "ok, we'll run both" thing. Uh that's how you're supposed to set it up. If you eliminate the PCV valve your idle will increase from the larger krank vent orifice allowing more air into the intake (if you don't have the rear vent hooked up that is). Besides, what's wrong with 2x the protection. Crunner, if you hook up the rear krank vent, the smoke will probably go away. If not your heads were not rebuilt correctly. There's a failed seal in there somewhere. Probably a valve stem seal which was not installed properly. I like my idle a bit above stock...  and don't crank vents cost around 200 bucks new? for a shiny check valve? you shouldn't have to keep the stock mistu unit on for that price... again.
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Posted: Tue Jun 26, 2007 12:42 pm |
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Just an update: Pulled the engine out Saturday, tore it down, dropped off the heads and block at the machine shop. Turbo's were sent off to Majestic Turbo in TX. All other dirty parts are being sandblasted and painted this week(end). I'll probably try to polish up everything aluminum if I can manage that 
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 3:14 pm |
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Just got an update from Majestic Turbo. Turbo's can't be rebuilt due to contaminits(sp?) in the oil. Now these were ran with the newly rebuilt block before the whole MyKiss ordeal. One thing I just thought of is I didn't flush / change my oil cooler during that rebuild. He said there were deep scratches in something that would require a whole new cartridge.
I'm definetely going to flush this cooler / replace it. Can you flush these at home with some sort of kit? What else can be done to prevent this? I would imagine during breakin you'd get little pieces of metal going to the turbos aswell..
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:53 pm |
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It would be better to just buy a new one. What kind of turbos are you running? Their excuse for not being able to rebuild it seems strange.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 4:59 pm |
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ver fer wrote: It would be better to just buy a new one. What kind of turbos are you running? Their excuse for not being able to rebuild it seems strange. Just 9B's. They can rebuilt them, just I'd have ot buy new Cartridges? for them, at $530 a piece.
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Posted: Thu Jun 28, 2007 5:03 pm |
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ccrunner84 wrote: ver fer wrote: It would be better to just buy a new one. What kind of turbos are you running? Their excuse for not being able to rebuild it seems strange. Just 9B's. They can rebuilt them, just I'd have ot buy new Cartridges? for them, at $530 a piece. Cartridges? SJ _________________ Racing is life. Everything else is just waiting. http://umg.mn3s.orghttp://ummo.boards.net
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