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Jhammer
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 Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 12:06 pm |
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Location: Waukesha. WI
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yes, turbo blocks are 8:1. Second gen TT blocks (94+) have 4-bolt mains, and forged crank shafts. I am pretty sure ALL N/A blocks are 2-bolt mains.
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G-ELL
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Posted: Tue Sep 16, 2008 7:37 pm |
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3.5L swap....  _________________ 06 Blue EVO 9
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 7:40 am |
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Jhammer wrote: Quote: Oh, and as far as the conversion to twins, just remember this one protip. don't pass out the fire water until AFTER the swap is complete. And make sure the guy that is giving you to TT parts has all of them with him (BOTH manifolds) so you dont have to kick his drunken ass off of your couch the next morning, drive to Green Bay and back while he is near death and ready to vomit at any second in your passenger seat.  nit pick nit pick. We found the parts.  ugh. that was a hang over from hell. milky wrote: So i have a feeling ttangel has a grudge about getting rebuilt engines lol. I have zero problems with rebuilt engines. I have a problem with sending an engine 14 states away to an "expert rebuilder" when we have a fair amount of really good shops right close. not to mention that if something goes wrong it is a pain to get your engine back from 14 states away. Oh, and it's an engine rebuild, not brain surgery. You don't need to send an engine 14 states away to have it rebuilt.
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milky
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 11:40 am |
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G-ELL wrote: 3.5L swap.... you know i thought about this but that would takea lot of body work and time in order for that to work. How hard would it be to make my car awd?
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G-ELL
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 2:24 pm |
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milky wrote: you know i thought about this but that would takea lot of body work and time in order for that to work. Huh? It's almost a direct swap... milky wrote: How hard would it be to make my car awd? *knocks head* _________________ 06 Blue EVO 9
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milky
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 5:40 pm |
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G-ELL wrote: milky wrote: you know i thought about this but that would takea lot of body work and time in order for that to work. Huh? It's almost a direct swap... milky wrote: How hard would it be to make my car awd? *knocks head* i was going to do a 3.5l swap but someone on 3si told me it was going to cost alot more money... and why you knocking your head on me asking how ard it would be to make my car awd
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Posted: Wed Sep 17, 2008 6:41 pm |
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A lot harder than a 3.5L swap.
I agree with Adam on the rebuild. I had thought about getting a Pampena engine when the time comes mostly because they run about the same a the mitsu shortblock, but use his pistons. After thinking about it I realized I could just buy the piston and have it done locally. I had already planned having the head done here anyway.
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Jhammer
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:29 am |
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Quote: How hard would it be to make my car awd? Dont even bother trying to do it, just buy a VR-4 at that point. The rear subframes are different between the N/A and TT cars, so in order to do it, you have to drop the rear subframe out of a TT and swap it with the subframe in your N/A. The strut towers are also different so you have to cut them out of a TT as well. You will have to have a donor TT car to cut the parts out of, so it would just be easier to rebuild the donor car rather then cut, chop, and weld two different cars together.
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milky
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 11:19 am |
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so how much work is a 3.5l swap? how much does a 3.5l have for horsepower and can i still do a twin turbo upgrade?
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Jhammer
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 1:43 pm |
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I couldnt tell you how much work a 3.5l swap is, as I haven't ever done one, but my understanding is that it isn't all that bad. I believe you have to make custom motor mounts to get things to fit correctly. I am sure there is more to it then that, but I just haven't done any research on it. You are FWD, with no LSD, you will easily make more power with a twin turbo, 3.0l, then you have traction for. Trust me on this one. 
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1993 3000GT VR-4 (build in progress)
1994 3000GT SL
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milky
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:10 pm |
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well it would have a lsd no matter what but i am just wondering how much horsepower that puts and then if you twin turbo it. how much horsepower does a twin turbo put out stock?
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:16 pm |
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milky wrote: well it would have a lsd no matter what but i am just wondering how much horsepower that puts and then if you twin turbo it. how much horsepower does a twin turbo put out stock? 1G=300 2G=320 _________________  Racing is life. Everything else is just waiting. http://umg.mn3s.orghttp://ummo.boards.net
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Jhammer
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:17 pm |
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Stock second generation is rated at 330ish HP at stock boost (12lbs I believe). You can push 9b's to higher boost levels 16-17lbs with supporting upgrades.
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1994 3000GT SL
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:19 pm |
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Jhammer wrote: You can push 9b's to higher boost levels 16-17lbs with supporting upgrades. Who would do such a thing?  SJ _________________ Racing is life. Everything else is just waiting. http://umg.mn3s.orghttp://ummo.boards.net
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Jhammer
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Posted: Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:39 pm |
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Quote: Who would do such a thing? crazy people SJ, crazy people.
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